Matt Frei is Leading Britain's Conversation.
11 October 2016, 11:08
Clive Bull And Nicholas Soames Collide Over Brexit
"I'm not going to go on with this." Sir Nicholas Soames and Clive Bull butt horns over whether MPs should get a say on Brexit.
"Don't try to confuse this!" Sir Nicholas Soames insists that Parliament must have a say in Brexit but gets a bit flummoxed by Clive Bull's tough questions on how that would work.
Soames was a Remain campaigner in the referendum and has called for Parliament to "play its role" in the implementation of the Brexit.
But when Clive tried to pin down exactly how that would work, he seemed to rile Soames.
"We know that most MPs probably would vote against coming out of the EU completely, so are they going to vote against the deal?" asked Clive.
"It's no secret," admitted Soames. "Most members of the House of Commons didn't want to leave. But the country has spoken."
Clive pushed him further: "But you do still say that MPs should have a say in this? Should they have a vote on when we trigger Article 50 for example?"
"That's a decision for Parliament to take...we need to get on with this now," said Soames.
Confused then about what Soames wants Parliament to do in relation to Brexit, Clive pushed further: "From what you're saying, you wouldn't want MPs to have a vote on it?"
"I didn't say that at all. Don't try to confuse it! I'm not going to go on with this."
It's a remarkable exchange - watch above and see if you can figure out what Sir Nicholas wants to happen.