Matt Stadlen is Leading Britain's Conversation
12 July 2016, 17:46
Caller David says bringing in gay marriage is a "stain" on David Cameron's legacy, a claim that Iain Dale handles wonderfully.
David was a fan of the outgoing PM, but describes it as a "downer" that he brought in "anti-family" gay marriage.
"How was it anti-family?" asked Iain. "It was allowing gay people to have a proper family."
"Firstly, I have gay friends," said Christian David. "So I've got nothing against homosexual people.
"I would say it promotes a sterile union which can't have children...it undermines natural family, which obviously the state backs."
Iain put David on the spot about that: "How does me being in a same-sex marriage undermine your family?
"Your friends' families? Anybody's family?"
"It's not really marriage is it," responded David. "Because marriage is between a man and a woman."
Iain's perfect response to that? "Well it is, because I have a certificate telling me that I'm married."