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1 June 2016, 13:16
Jonathan claims that his business would work better if the UK had points-based immigration but finds it a bit tricky to give a straight answer when James O'Brien presses him.
Jonathan, who previously called to claim his supermarket queues were incredibly long thanks to immigrants, called James to join the debate on a points-based immigration system.
He told the LBC presenter that he struggles to find the right skills in his industry now to carry out work.
James just wanted to get a bit more information on that claim - which proved a little trickier than O'Brien had anticipated.
"When did you last need engineering services? Can I ask you that?" started James. "Tell me about your life.
"When did you last fail to find engineering services?"
Jonathan took umbrage at that: "You're splitting hairs!"
"I promise you I'm not. Sometimes when people accuse me of not listening, what they're really cross about is that I listen so closely," said James.
"So I've taken the only example you've given me of how it would improve your life...Jonathan, when did you last need engineering services and you couldn't find them?"
It might seem like a straightforward question but as you can see above, it's one that Jonathan really didn't seem keen to answer.
So James asked it again and again and again- but would he get the answer at the fifteenth time of asking?