Iain Dale is Leading Britain's Conversation.
8 March 2017, 11:03
As Wikileaks claims that MI5 is developing software to spy on ordinary people through their TVs, James says that even if you have nothing to fear, you should be concerned.
When it comes to the abilities of intelligence agencies to keep track of what we do privately, a lot of people say: "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear."
But James explained brilliantly why that's simply not the case.
"They're watching us. Or at least they have the potential to watch us. I used to think that was fine because I've got nothing to hide, I now find it slightly terrifying.
"What if we end up with a government like Donald Trump's?
"Or President Erdogan's in Turkey?
"What if we sit here, calmly, waving through this sort of knowledge, saying 'Yeah but they've solved 13 terror attacks in the last two years, it's great that they can watch people.'
"What if we just sit here, calmly allowing this epic amount of surveillance to be undertaken of us and we wake up 10 years down the line and we're living in a country that has got a leader that thinks all dissent should be silenced.
"Who thinks all people that disagree with him politically are traitors or enemies of the people?"