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26 July 2017, 14:11
Ronnie in Newquay phoned James O'Brien with his hilarious tale of going from vegan to carnivore.
A vegan campaigning group has won the right to say that milk is not produced "humanely".
Go Vegan World, a group which campaigns against the consumption of animal produce, and advocates a plant-based diet, had painted a horrible picture of young calves being taken from their mothers as the foundation of the dairy industry.
But farmers and key figures in the dairy industry complained that it was inaccurate.
Go Vegan World won the right to continue illustrating the dairy industry in this way - but James O'Brien asked his listeners whether they think this right.
Many phoned up advocating the vegan diet, and others, including dairy farmers, phoned up saying it was ridiculous.
But Ronnie, from Newquay, phoned in with a slightly different, and entertaining, point of view.