Ian Collins is Leading Britain's Conversation.
30 August 2016, 08:22
After five stabbings and hundreds of arrests, Katie Hopkins rants about the Notting Hill Carnival and multiculturalism in London.
Caller Michael in Ealing phoned in to defend the two-day event, which saw more than a million people hit the streets for music, dancing and partying.
It also saw more than 400 arrests and five people stabbed, including a 15-year-old boy.
But Michael said we should compare it to other events of similar size and realise how small the crime figures actually are - a point that Katie wasn't having at all.
"Other large events do not get reported - " he started, when Katie cut across him.
"We've tried to find comparable statistics and we can't. This seems to be one of the most violent events Michael," said Katie. "We've tried to find statistics that make it look OK, it doesn't look OK."
Michael replied: "This is a London event, it's multicultural - " and that's what really kicked Katie off.
"I don't buy multiculturalism at all.
"I get it inside this London bubble, I come here to work, I see, you all believe in it. Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.
"The liberal left wing press, the BBC, they love it! They can't get enough of it.
"Look at the pictures on the BBC website today of the Notting Hill Carnival, it'd make you think it was Rio. I look at some other pictures, there's five gentlemen weeing against a wall.
"As an outsider, as a Brexiteer, I don't buy it at all."