Ian Payne is Leading Britain's Conversation.
16 October 2016, 14:28
Maajid Nawaz makes a very clear point about those who think Britain can isolate itself from the world's problems.
Maajid says he can't understand people who say we should not intervene in conflicts in other countries, while simultaneously not wanting to take in any refugees.
"The truth is we are involved whether we like it or not. We have been involved, we will be involved and we will remain involved, because guess what we cannot put up our silos and pretend we are not connected to the world.
"This isn't little England any more," he said pointing at the crisis in Syria as an example. "If we continue to ignore the crisis in Syria we can't take the contradictory position to then also choose to do nothing about refugees, because the refugees crisis is a direct result of the crisis in Syria being ignored."
"I don't understand for the life of me how people can hold such contradictory views."