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5 March 2019, 10:12
Iain Dale clashes with a guest who claimed "there is no place for Tories in black activism" after the LBC presenter said that black Tory candidates was a good thing.
Dr Kehinde Andrews told Iain Dale's panel that people with a platform need to be "more responsible" about how they talk about race.
"A lot of stuff that comes out of some people does actually promote this right-wing view which makes it terribly worse."
But when the LBC presenter said that progress was being made, his guest disagreed.
"In politics for example, you have leafy Tory constituents in the south-east of England that have no issue at all in picking black candidates to stand in safe Conservative seats. That would not have happened 15 years ago," Iain said.
Dr Andrews replied: "Why is that a good thing? You can have 100 black Tories but it wont make any difference to me!"
Iain responded: "You are exhibiting the problem by saying that. You absolutely are the problem because if you don't think that that is progress, then I'm afraid you're living in a different world to the rest of us."
But at the end of a fiery rebuttal between the pair, Dr Andrews said: "There's no place for Tories in black activism."
Listen to the clash in the video above.