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Two Labour Supporters Passionately Disagree Over Corbyn
A fantastic call between two Labour supporters - one from Liverpool and one from London - who encapsulate the split in the Labour party.
This weekend the Labour party will confirm the winner of its latest leadership race. Jeremy Corbyn is expected to win and these two supporters passionately disagree about him.
Ron from Greenwich is a passionate Jeremy Corbyn fan. He believes he heralds a shift in the Labour party, back to what he believes is a more traditionally leftist position.
Mark from Liverpool, who says his background is with the hard-left, respects Jeremy Corbyn as a constituent MP, but believes his failures as a leader are consigning the country to years of Tory rule.
Two passionate Labour supporters, very divergent views about their party.
Is this the Labour party's problem in the nutshell?