Epic Row Between Nick Ferrari And Social Worker Over Toddler Death

7 November 2017, 08:56 | Updated: 7 November 2017, 10:16

After Nick Ferrari criticised social workers for their role in the death of toddler Elsie Scully-Hicks, this social worker phoned up. And what followed was explosive.

Elsie had a bleed on the brain, a skull fracture, retinal bleeding in both of her eyes and damaged ribs. Yesterday, her adoptive father has been found guilty of murder.

Seven chances to save her were missed in just eight months and Nick blamed NHS and social workers for failing the youngster.

But social worker Ruth called in - and the conversation got very combative.

Nick criticised social workers for missing the chance to save Elsie Scully-Hicks
Nick criticised social workers for missing the chance to save Elsie Scully-Hicks. Picture: LBC

Ruth started by saying: "I'm a social worker, so you can berate me if you want."

Nick said he would only do so if she was involved in this case, but she continued: "When I was a social worker, I was responsible for 12 families. In all of those families, there was at least three children.

"I was responsible for keeping all of those children safe, in very different circumstances, with very manipulative people.

"This dad was very manipulative. He was a calculating, cold guy. How could I, when I have 20 minutes in a house with somebody once every couple of weeks, figure out that they are a murderer."

And when Nick responded, "I'll tell you exactly how, since you ask", things really escalated.

Listen to the fascinating call at the top of the page.

More Nick Ferrari

See more More Nick Ferrari

Nick Ferrari and caller Eve

Nick Ferrari and caller Eve go back and forth over the Middle East conflict

LBC caller Paula drives home the impact of PIP benefit cuts

LBC caller Paula drives home the impact of disability benefit cuts

'Iran has a democratic candidate, unlike Iraq...'

Iraqi caller explains why Iran-Iraq comparisons fall short

It's not fair

Nick Ferrari loses his patience with caller over ‘non-dom’ tax scheme

Caller Som has a warning from the past as the conflict between Israel and Iran escalates.

Caller Som has a warning from history as Israel and Iran conflict escalates

LBC callers react to Israel’s ‘risky’ strike on Iran

LBC callers react to Israel’s ‘risky’ strike on Iran

Caller in Israel warns against Iran becoming a nuclear-armed state

Caller in Israel warns against Iran becoming a nuclear-armed state

Caller points out that Israel denied entry to Labour MPs as UK comes under fire for new sanctions

Caller points out that Israel denied entry to Labour MPs as UK comes under fire for new sanctions

Caller Layla

Caller Layla fears for her daughters following Kemi Badenoch's Burqa comments

Caller Barry

LBC caller backs the government's reversal on the winter fuel allowence

Nick Ferrari is unsure about caller Bill's proposal to turn migrant hotels into prisons

Nick Ferrari is unsure about caller Bill's proposal to turn migrant hotels into prisons

Call the Cabinet: Nick Ferrari is joined by Environment Secretary Steve Reed to take your calls

Call the Cabinet: Nick Ferrari is joined by Environment Secretary Steve Reed to take your calls

LBC reaction: 1200 Channel migrants arrive in a single day

LBC reaction: 1200 Channel migrants arrive in a single day

Exclusive
'Elite mindset' and ‘left-wing opinion’ fuelling migrant crisis says Nick Ferrari as he slams government

'Elite mindset' and ‘left-wing opinion’ fuelling migrant crisis says Nick Ferrari as he slams the government

Reform, racism and ‘a perverse Batman’ | LBC’s best callers of the week

Reform, racism and ‘a perverse Batman’: LBC’s best callers of the week

'Farage is a media-made man'

David and Nick debate whether 'tiny and ridiculous' Reform gets too much airtime