Predatory men can take advantage of Scotland’s new gender law, says worried caller

21 December 2022, 19:18 | Updated: 21 December 2022, 19:21

This Tom Swarbrick caller claims new law endangers women

LBC

By LBC

“There are evil men out there,” said the caller who feels there is nothing in the gender recognition reform bill that will protect women from predatory men.

A Tom Swarbrick caller has shared her concern over Scotland's new Gender Recognition Reform Act, saying predatory men could use this to their advantage.

The law will allow teenagers as young as 15 to start legally changing their gender without parental consent.

This comes after members of the Scottish Parliament were heckled on Tuesday, with shouts of “Shame on you!” after they voted against an amendment which would make it more difficult for sex offenders to obtain a gender recognition certificate.

READ MORE: Teens as young as 15 will now be able to change gender identity as Scottish Parliament heckled with cries of 'shame on you'

“I’m quite emotional about this”, Maggie in Scotland told Tom.

She continued: “The problem for me is - I speak as a woman - I wonder who can assure me that things won’t happen because predatory males have already committed crimes typical of male sex offenders.”

“I'm wondering, as a former victim myself, how do I know the person presenting with a beard, with whatever in a toilet is not a predatory male?” Maggie said.

The caller added: “People are forgetting in Scotland there’s a Hate Crime Bill, so I can’t ask the person if they’re female.”

Tom Swarbrick questions why political parties want to make amendments to the Gender Recognition Act.

Tom replied: “I think it's a totally legitimate and fair question to be asking, particularly from someone who’s experienced that kind of violence.

“Could you not also ask the question, if you’re in a ladies’ loo or ladies’ changing room, how do you know that every female you’re encountering there is not a predatory woman?”

Maggie replied: “Statistics show that there are very few predatory women compared to sex crimes by men.”

“If I ask a man in a ladies’ toilet just now, why is he in here, I could be reported…for being transphobic”, she added, sharing an example of how that already occurred in Aberdeen.

READ MORE: Scottish civil servants told biological sex is a 'falsehood'

She said that the Hate Crime Bill would prevent her from being able to question the individual.

“Under the law, the person who you’re asking would have their legal right to be in that room”, said Tom. “Why would you question?”

Maggie responded: “There are lots of men in many countries and they’re going into toilets, they’re pleasuring themselves, they’ve dressed in miniskirts, they've got beards, they've probably still got their genitalia.”

She reiterated that she is not saying every transgender person is predatory but believed “there are evil men out there” who will take advantage of this law.

She also said there was no mention in the act of how women would be protected in this way.

Another caller phoned in to share her upset towards women's rights and trans rights being "pitted" against one another, see that full call below or watch more on Global Player.

This caller is upset that women's rights and trans rights have been 'pitted' against each other

More Tom Swarbrick

See more More Tom Swarbrick

Lord Harrington said there should be a cap on the number of asylum seekers the UK takes.

Former refugees minister Lord Harrington calls for a cap on the number of asylum seekers the UK takes

Mel Stride has backed the PM

Rishi Sunak has 'absolutely not' betrayed nation over Rwanda plan, insists minister after Braverman's attack on PM

Tom and caller

'Our family is there': Mother shares heartbreaking experience of being a British Jew during Israel-Hamas conflict

The ban will be brought into effect in months

'Children should be in the classroom to learn': Gillian Keegan orders 'blanket ban' of mobile phones in schools

Exclusive
Tributes have been paid to Elianne after she was stabbed to death in Croydon

Fellow pupil of schoolgirl stabbed to death in Croydon describes heartbreaking moment students were told of her killing

Scotland's first safe drug consumption space set to be openned

'Isn't this just decriminalising heroin?': Tom Swarbrick questions Labour MSP over first safe drug consumption room

The education secretary discusses educational reforms with Tom Swarbrick

Shadow education secretary says 'Building Schools for the Future Programme' would have prevented Raac crisis

Tom Swabrick

'Is it not completely mental?': Tom Swarbrick astonished as schools shut due to crumble-risk concrete before new term

Exam results

Equation sheets given to GCSE cohort in attempt lessen reduced grade inflation blow, schools minister says

Crime commentator on Adam Provan

Internal review of rapist ex-Met officer is the equivalent of 'marking your own homework', says crime commentator

Education Secretary discuss new Eton free schools on LBC

‘Bailed out by Eton’: Education Secretary discusses new free schools with Tom Swarbrick

Lucy Letby: We have to know what went so 'catastrophically wrong' says Tom Swarbrick

Lucy Letby: We have to know what went so 'catastrophically wrong' says Tom Swarbrick

Exclusive
Lord Edward Garnier has called for a public inquiry into Andrew Malkinson's case

Top lawyer blasts Andrew Malkinson rape case as the 'worst miscarriage of justice of the 21st century'

Suella Barge

Suella Braverman can't be blamed for housing migrants on barge with Legionella, ConservativeHome editor says

Tom Swarbrick on mortgages

It would be 'manifestly unfair' to use taxpayers' money to subsidise mortgages, Tom Swarbrick says

Tom Swarbrick

'It's a case of Ulez you lose', Tom Swarbrick tells Tory chairman as Conservatives retain Uxbridge seat